@sookster54 Wow, you've been using linux for a while. It's only been 14 months for me and I've tried to use Debian but quite honestly, it just doesn't seem like the distro for me. Maybe I'll like it more when I learn more and more about linux. I'm running PClinuxOS right now. Great implementation of KDE4 I must say. Yeah, same thing happened to me when I upgraded to rawhide in Fedora.