How many games are on linux? (The Bazaar)

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  1. Sorry, I have to disagree with everything you said.

    1. Linux gaming is good because we have over 4,000 games:
    Shear numbers are not enough to make the platform a good gaming platform. Mobile devices have a ton of games too. Are they better than desktops because of the amount of games they have. You do realize that in recent years Steam has been becoming more like these mobile app stores with all the shovelware it has been getting. Triple-A games may not be completely necessary, but shovelware is a massive problem on Steam just like mobile.

    2. Emulators: They are a great way to preserve gaming history, but most people also would like to participate in the present-day gaming world. It's not just Triple-A games here either. I was looking forward to buying Battalion 1944, but it turns out there never really were plans for linux client support. These awesome high-quality kickstarter games always let us down with the broken promises of linux ports. Some of us want more than just pixel art. We want to use the graphics cards we paid for. Broken early access survival games aren't good enough.

    3. Wine: It is a great way of preserving games just like emulation, however, claiming this as some kind of linux victory is kind of lame. It not only works on other posix-compliant operating systems, but it also has been adapted for Windows. I use it on my Windows PC because modern AMD drivers break Star wars battlefront 2. I don't want to rollback my entire driver to play a 13-year-old game. Wine works just fine on Windows. https://fdossena.com/?p=wined3d/index.frag

  2. I agree with you in principal, but of the 4000 games 3/4 of them are shovelware and aset flips on steam. We are lacking in AAA games, most of the ones we do get are 2 year old ports. Still There are a lot of good games, emulators, basicly flexibility. These are good things, but when you start the conversation on a strawman people are going to tune you out.

  3. When people say that "there are no games on Linux", they are largely referring to AAA titles. First, we must establish what exactly a AAA title is: games that are developed and published by large studios and publishers with expensive budgets. AAA does not refer to games that one thinks of as high quality as a product, such as a very good indie game. AAA titles did not really quite exist, or become nearly as relevant, until the 2000s and beyond when more and more mid range developers and publishers either became larger or shut down. This distinction in game quality and budget did not really exist in the heyday of Atari, as games created by smaller and larger teams were almost indistinguishable.

    We should not deride people for claiming "Linux has no games". The objective of gaming is to have fun, and if these games provide some of the most enjoyment for this select group of people, you cannot take that away from them. We should highlight how the gaming situation has improved immensely, in terms of native titles, the indie developers, and the porting companies. To say that one should not care about AAA titles is a bit narrow minded. While many AAA titles partake in shady business practices and stray further away from gaming as an art form to gaming as a service, there are still AAA titles, while not on Linux, that have left an impact on the video game landscape and provided unique experience not offered by any other grade of title.

    It is also quite unfair to compare the selection of Linux games on Steam to consoles of a single generation. It is similarly unfair to compare Windows games on Steam to consoles of a single generation, because PC gaming is not limited to generations of games due to graphical limitations. PC gaming spans not only mere years, but decades, compared to what is compatible with current generation consoles. PC gaming never took a break. One can use the same PC from 2010 to now to play games from the then current generation to now. The point here is that it is not about quantity, but quality. How many of the thousands of games released on Steam just in the past couple years of the "game explosion" do people really know or care about on Steam? In terms of gaming, it is about how many meaningful experiences, be it games as a toy, as competition, or as art, is offered to players.

    Fantastic job with the video, Hex! These longer form videos are turning out better than the daily videos!

  4. I'm going to disagree with you on this. What people mean with "Linux doesn't have any games" is that Linux doesn't have enough triple A titles which stand true specially when games like Dying Light keep messing up on AMDGPU drivers every other driver update. It would be nice to have more triple A games that runs natively in linux.

  5. I've been using wine for years to play many old Windows 9X kernel games. I agree, it's actually a good way to play old Windows XP games as well. And I agree, Linux does have an ever growing library of games. Even if you are just emulating them through a console emulator or DOSBox.

    I have been using Linux since 2007 as my OS of choice, and back then gaming on linux was almost dire. There were very few native games, and the open source games that were available at the time were in various states of completion. Wine was still in its infancy, and I remember having to compile my own console emulators, which also required me to scour the net for dev libraries that I couldn't find in the synaptic package manager I was using at the time. Everything has changed now in a really positive way.

    Yes, Windows (and Windows legacy) will always have the largest library, but Microsoft is started to talk about UWP being the future of Windows, they may plan on removing the Win32/win64 .exe libraries from Windows altogether, which may kill a lot of older windows titles. This is also something that Valve is a bit worried about, and the reason why they have been pushing Linux. Steam in a UWP environment may hurt their bottom line.

  6. I always think it's funny that people say Linux users can't afford windows. I paid for my Linux from 2001-2011 until the slow painful death of Mandriva. And now I am on Linspire. It's just a better OS, that's the reason to run Linux…or GNU/Linux rather.

  7. I just can't take "you can play Windows games in Linux by using WINE" as a fair rebuttle to the whole "Linux has no games" or something similar.

    Why? Because it's hoops to jump and, most importantly, is a huge, huge security risk. If you're going to switch to Linux, then go ahead and use WINE anyway, you might as well have just stayed in M$'s ecosystem, IMO. I'm glad you have the choice to do as you like though — this is Linux, after all; I'm just very indifferent to it and have a hard time getting my head around it. I guess if I were still a hardcore gamer, I'd be more understanding.

    That being said, I love the idea of WINE, and I love and live Linux (my channel name should indicate as much) but this just doesn't seem realistic to me, especially for your average gamer. I didn't switch to Linux for games, though; I switched for privacy, security, and flexibility, plus I loathe M$.

    Then there's whether those Linux games will even work, and if they do, will they run like crap?

    Come to think of it, I do expect time will yield more results. I do acknowledge how far Linux has come, regarding gaming. I'd keep an eye on things like Wayland, Snaps/Flatpaks/Appimage, and I'd definitely keep an eye on Vulkan.

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  9. Wow man i should have a look at wine but can my computer run most of the games on steam ,wine and some emulators?
    Graphic card ; nvidia 420m 1GB
    2.6ghz
    4gb ram
    And btw can open source drivers handle it?

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